Captain Rick listens to friends discuss hot topic of defunding Obamacare to prevent U.S. Government Shutdown on Oct. 1, 2013

Posted: September 24, 2013 in Listening to Feedback, Obamacare, Pet Talk, U.S. Debt Crisis, United States
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Captain Rick: An email I sent to my world-wide list of e-friends about defunding Obamacare to prevent U.S. Government shutdown on October 1 went wild. I have never witnessed such an enthusiastic response.

I share the conversation below. I welcome everyone reading this to join in this conversation by placing a comment below.

I am listening to what you have to say…

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How this discussion began on September 19, 2013: I shared the following with my email audience in an email publication called ‘Atridim Breaking News’.

ATRIDIM BREAKING NEWS: Rep. Salmon Stands with Senators Cruz and Lee and House Conservatives in Support of Defunding Obamacare

 

Captain Rick: I think this effort in the U.S. House is noble but will fail when it is passed to the ‘dead beat’ U.S. Senate…but I give my Arizona friend Rep Matt Salmon a ‘thumbs up’ for his outstanding efforts to defeat Obamacare…which is on course to help bankrupt America…even more so than it already is.

This is all part of the program to reach an agreement to prevent a U.S. government shutdown on October 1. I have a strong hunch that a shut down will happen…the first since 1995. It should happen. It needs to happen. It must happen to wake up America to realize that our wildly, drunken debt spending to make a sick economy look OK must end to protect America’s future…if one even exists.

The U.S. has been spending stimulus (debt) dollars at the rate of $85 billion per month. It is ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’. Its making our economy look OK in the short term, but is doing untold damage for our economy in the coming years…setting up a U.S. economic train wreck that will have the magnitude to reduce America to a third world country. If you think I am kidding…stay tuned. It will all unfold before our eyes in the coming years.

I see little hope from the morons in Washington to solve our extremely sad fiscal problems facing America. There are a few good people fighting to save America. My friend Matt Salmon is one of them. Matt, have you considered running for President of the United States of America in 2016? If not, you should! You would receive my vote above all potential candidates. America desperately needs an intelligent mind at the controls to steer America away from the pending train wreck off of the real fiscal cliff…just ahead.

The conversation begins:

Anita of Arizona: We need our top Republican legislators to take out John McCain and Jeff Flake.   Matt would be a perfect candidate.  He’s clearly a principled, conservative Republican fighter!

Captain Rick: I totally agree. Jeff and John once stood tall representing Arizona…but as two of the ‘gang of 8 idiots’ in the U.S. Senate promoting amnesty for illegal immigrants, they appear to have sold out to liberal interests. If I didn’t know better, I would guess both of them are democrats. They fit in well in the democrat U.S. Senate, which is on track to fiscally destroy America. Hopefully America will come to its senses in the next election and do a general house cleaning of fiscal waste in the U.S. Senate by voting in some conservative blood. Short of that, I envision a continuation of America’s fiscal train ride heading at high speed for a monumental dive off of the real fiscal cliff just ahead.

Steven of Wisconsin: I think you are dead wrong on this issue of health care reform.  Obamacare as it is called will prevent health insurance companies from not giving insurance because pre-existing conditions, from spending less than 80% of the insurance premiums on health care, and from not covering dependents under the age of 27.  These things are already helping the common folk like me.  I don’t know why you and your conservative friends constantly undermine the middle class and support things that are not in our best interest.  Where were your friends when we bailed out the big banks, gave huge tax breaks to oil companies, and started two very costly wars?  Those representatives like Cruz do nothing for America but tear down and obstruct.  They restrict voting rights and women’s rights!  They aren’t the patriots and saviors of America.  They are the ones that caused our economic downturn and do nothing to improve America.  Voting 42 times to repeal Obamacare is insane. It doesn’t help my family or my budget.  But history will repeat itself…those same “conservatives” tried to repeal social security a million times and did not succeed because it helped Americans and is still helping us today.  It has very low overhead and is secure.  This is why I continue to support single payer health insurance.  Obamacare is not perfect….neither was social security when it passed.  Your attitude continues to support and promote the upper 1% of this country while the middle class shrinks to almost nothing.  Of course you blamed much of this shrinkage on unions which I did not respond to at the time because I ignored your comment.  But the lower and middle class will rise up along with the unions because they have no choice.  You continue to listen to yourself and Fox News.  The problem is you believe everything the right wing puts out there.  You will wake up after the next election and realize that America has spoken; you will not like what they said. Remember last election how surprised so many of your conservative friends were when Obama won the election!  They really did believe what they were spouting.

Captain Rick: Steven, thanks for your candid and expounded reply.  My voice (‘attitude’ as you refer to it) via ATRIDIM NEWS is designed to be provocative, to draw people in my world-wide audience out of the ‘woodwork’ to say what is ‘on their mind’. Your reply assures me that the design is working. I trust this will help assure my readers that I listen to, respect and report FEEDBACK received from everyone.

Concerning your statements about ‘my conservative friends,’ I must mention that my audience of friends from over 50 countries around the world represent every ‘walk of life’ and ever ‘point of view’. Not all of them share my ‘point of view’. You are one of those friends…and I am pleased you shared your ‘point of view’.

Ken of California:  Steven of Wisconsin, With respect to your comment “You continue to listen to yourself and Fox News.  The problem is you believe everything the right wing puts out there.”

I listen to the voice of reason!

The liberal notion of giving a free lunch to every bum out there only breeds a society of blood sucking leaches.

We live in the land of opportunity, but the opportunities are up to you! They are not for the government to rob from the working class to give to the lazy.

Kendall of California:  Captain Rick – Really like this email format in which you deliver updates and opinions. It could be just me, but there doesn’t seem to be a link to take me to the post so that I may leave a comment. Not quite sure which post its referring to. Or do I simply leave my comment in this email? Could that be the whole point.

If the ladder is this case, here is my two cents: First, Captain Rick, I really support and enjoy your style of allowing all voices to be heard, but still manage to maintain a civil environment. I appreciate that. It allows a reader to enter the fray without running for cover from unwarranted, off-topic deragotory remarks. That being said Ken of California: The points that you pertain to make are missed by shooting generalizations that each person that finds theirself accepting government assistance, are lazy bums. If you follow the same logic through, than following the Enron era and Bernard Madoff regime, all corporate executives are ruthless villians out simply for themselves. Neither is true. Indiviuals taking advantage of good intentions occur at all levels, in each circuit, every single day. I have read and listened to some very convincing arguments, and understand both sides. But even then, a voter has to choose. Unless you truly believe that every student who takes out a government loan, every family that finds theirselves being unable to make ends meet, and that every person who works can afford health insurance, than labeling the millions of honest, hard-working Americans, both Republicans and Democrats alike, as lazy bums, does nothing to educate those on why you cast your vote. Unless, like I said, that is what you believe. In that case, what fact book are you using so that I may have a look too – Kendall of California.

Captain Rick: Kendall, sincere thanks for your words of kindness for ‘my style’ of allowing voices to be heard while maintaining a civil environment … and for your appreciation. You guessed right in simply commenting by reply to this email. I know it seems very ‘old-fashioned’, but you must keep in mind that the e-friends that I have gathered from around the world over many years do not all partake of the social media that many of us do. Many are not on Facebook or WordPress, etc. The one media that they all do have in common is email. And so, I am pleased to present this seemingly ‘old-fashioned’ means of allowing my friends to join our conversation. Perhaps this is a bit like ‘going back to the future’.

PJ of Arizona:  All Steven of Wisconsin needs to know about the fallacy of ObamaCare is contained in this snippet from the most recent Seeing Red Arizona:

 

“In 2008, people in poverty represented 13.2 percent of America’s population. In 2012, the impoverished had risen to 15.0 percent of the population.

An even bleaker picture is painted in the Congressional Budget Office report, which sends an urgent message to Americans, as it says the nation’s debt is on an “unsustainable path.” Implementation of Obamacare will exacerbate the crisis. CBO warns federal debt held by the public will hit 100% of GDP by 2038.

A Fox News report details the results of a new poll showing an overwhelming majority of Americans are concerned about their health care plan under Obamacare. A majority — 68% — want to go back to the 2009 health care system. Concerns are not only shared by Republicans and Independents, but by a 56-percent majority of Democrats.

Gordon of Arizona: I really think that this scare of a shutdown is just another tactic like what happened back in the Bush era. Remember what they said? ”If we do not initiate the stimulus and bail out these large corporations right now, THE SKY IS GOING TO FALL!”. Looking back, we would have been much better off now if we had let them fail. My opinion is: LET THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWD! The local people will pick up the pieces (if that is what it comes to) and do a much better job of running things than Washington.

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  1. Steven J. Doelder says:

    Ken:
    The blood sucking leaches you are talking about are the big corporations that export jobs to slave labor countries and reap huge profits. They pay little or no taxes and their CEO’s “earn” huge bonuses. They externalized many of their costs and do nothing to improve the middle class. Pollution and global climate change are just a few of these costs. From 2002 to 2012 the wages of the top 1% increases by over 30% while the other 99% of our laborers only had wages that increased by 0.5%. Are you saying that the “bottom” 99% are blood sucking leaches and don’t deserve a fair shake because they are lazy bums? The top 1% continues to buy the political system and gain more benefits for themselves. The middle class shrinks as we are fast becoming a third world country. There are many of us that hold three jobs and still can’t make ends meet because we only make $7.25 per hour. The minimum wage hasn’t been increased in years. All the data supports the fact that increasing wages improves the general economy because the middle class spends the money in the community in which they live…tax breaks for the wealthy only increases their balances in their offshore bank account. We do live in the land of opportunity but some have more opportunity then others…some people live in the right moment and can become very wealthy. Some people live in the right place and can become very wealthy. You don’t have the corner on reason. You are selectively myopic and believe the “facts” that the big corporations sell you. This country was the greatest when the middle class was the strongest (and by the way, when the unions were the strongest).
    Steve of Wisconsin

  2. Steven J. Doelder says:

    More on Obamacare…Response to PJ:
    The poll results are always affected by the way the questions are framed. People are opposed to Obamacare but in favor of the components of the plan. If people are asked if they are in favor of preventing insurance companies from denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions, they are overwhelmingly in favor of that part. So Fox News frames their poll questions very simply and asks are you in favor or opposed to Obamacare. Guess what the results show? I have concerns about Obamacare, too. I don’t think it goes far enough. I am in favor a single payer plan. So, I am included in the 56% percent majority of Democrats who are concerned about Obamacare. Fox News constantly bad mouths Obamacare…tell me they aren’t bias. What do poverty rates have to do with Obamacare? Your statistics only prove what I have been saying all along. The wealthy are exploiting the middle class workers and sending them below the poverty level. Of course we cannot continue to borrow money to pay our national bills….it reinforces my comments about bailing out big banks, starting wars, and giving tax breaks to corporations that send our jobs to slave labor countries. The Republicans want to force a repeal of Obamacare by adding it to a bill to fund the operation of this government….they will force a shut-down of our government. They will bring the United States to its knees…something Bin Ladin and al qaeda failed to do. These same Republicans are treated as heroes and saints by some people. What is our definition of a terrorist? Hmmmm?
    PFC Steven Doelder

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